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See that picture, this is what feminazi’s are trying to elicit in anyone that is listening to them talk about violence towards women, especially lawmakers minds on what men do after a rape. There is of course many problems with the accusation of a rape culture.
We as men, the vast majority of us, do not go around high fiving each other when we hear of a girl getting raped. We do not fantasize about raping women, we do not secretly or publicly celebrate any violence towards woman, we also, and a point forgotten in any ‘discussion’ (can any news story or media outlet covering anything now a days really be called a discussion? More of a one sided propaganda piece.) – which is, we also don’t celebrate violence outwardly or inwardly against men or children either. Okay. You’re gonna bring up boxing, UFC, and violent sports as a celebration – but there is a significant difference between celebrating masculine violence on another man when it is a consensual battle between two men, of comparable traits and physique – which much to the modern feminist’s chagrin, means we would never celebrate a man fighting a woman in boxing or UFC. Just as we wouldn’t if a child were fighting a grown man.
Rape is wrong. Violence is wrong. Compartmentalizing violence is wrong. Is there a murder culture because there’s a lot of murders. Apparently all these murderers are getting away with this crime because the Patriarchy has put laws in place that allow murderers (who I’m assuming you as the reader automatically naturally pictured men as your first image of a murderer) to commit murders, and promotes covering up the murders. I’m not a murderer, and I’m not a rapist. I am neither a potential murderer nor a potential rapist. Enough. This accusation of a rape culture is complete lunacy and a clear attack on men’s rights.
Here’s an excerpt from Paul Elam on an article over at A Voice For Men:
When I was a young soldier I had the misfortune of being robbed and beaten while walking back to the barracks from an enlisted man’s club late at night with a friend of mine. Four men, all armed with some variation of a club, literally jumped out of the bushes and attacked us.
I suffered a couple of broken ribs, head to toe bruising and a couple of fairly respectable cuts. My friend was struck on the head with a wine bottle resulting in a severe concussion and 17 stitches in his scalp.
We were both stripped naked and left on the side of the road in 20 degree weather.
The Army Criminal Investigation Division (C.I.D.) questioned us like we were the criminals, caught exactly no one and went on to fail at other investigations in pretty short order. The guys in the barracks turned it in to a joke and made fun of us for a month or so.
Shit happens
Again, is this a violence culture? Sounds an awful lot like what happens when a girl gets raped and tries to report it, especially in the military. Hmmmn… so it’s only substantial and a culture when it’s against women? Men as victims of violence doesn’t matter. Why? Because we are assumed to be more powerful? More capable of dealing with this violence? Is that the feminist argument of equality? If so, it’s an admittance that they aren’t equal, and equality is not their mission.
There was some recent rape culture accusations of the military by the media and feminists after soldier Myla Haider and others filed a lawsuit against the US military. Myla claims that her reporting these accusations would have been and subsequently were brushed aside, and that just bringing up the complaint would, and did damage her career in the military, (of course accusing someone falsely would have the same consequence but only for the accused). There has been extensive coverage on this case on places like CNN. Check out a brief interview here:
Of course, if this girl was raped and all of these things were done to her, then yes, it is terrible. That’s not my point. It is implied that only women get raped in the military and only women are treated like such, by the coverage of a woman’s victimhood over a man’s victimhood. This is a subtle but deliberate gesture to create a false concept of a rape culture. Here’s a little article that didn’t receive the same attention:
Bermuda Regiment should not have tried to hush-up the attempted rape of a soldier in Grenada, according to a conscript who was on the 2005 hurricane-relief trip.
The man, who asked not to be named, told The Royal Gazette he was “disgusted” that the Regiment claimed in 2009 to have had no reports of sexual misconduct since 2002.
This newspaper asked the Regiment directly about the Grenada incident in September 2009 after investigating and uncovering 14 allegations of sexual assault or harassment made by male soldiers at Warwick Camp between 1989 and 2002.
But then public relations officer Major George Jones refused to comment.
The former soldier said “everybody” on the Grenada trip knew a private had assaulted another private at knifepoint and that the incident was sexual.
“I am disgusted by the Regiment’s insistence that there have not been any instances of sexual assault within the Regiment since 2002,” he said.
“It baffles me that the Regiment had no idea the incident was already public knowledge. The perpetrator was sentenced to some time in the Regiment lock-up on his return to Bermuda and then released back onto an unsuspecting public.
“The alleged victim was given a discharge from the Regiment, presumably to keep him quiet.”
Sounds familiar doesn’t it? BTW, the officer that was raped was a man. What’s my point?
There’s no rape culture. Rape happens to men and women. When dealing with violence, go after violence, not violence against women, but violence against everyone. Rape is rape, covering it up is not a culture of misogynists and rape lovers – or is it the fabled “Grand ol’ Patriarch” rearing its head – It is that people who commit these crimes, and who hold positions of power over people that commit these crimes, be they men or women, do not want this to get out. They want to cover it up, because of guilt, and getting away with it, and if you are in a place of power over people who commit these crimes, you will be identified with these crimes regardless. It is a fear based reaction to push it under the rug. It has absolutely nothing to do with a bullshit rape culture.
Saying and accusing the society we live in, and thus all men that live in this society, or anyone who disagrees with you is a misogynist or a rape culture supporter is defamatory, and should be condemned by all people.
Again, feminism doesn’t want equality, it wants supremacy. Feminists hate themselves and their sex, much more than they hate us, and much more than they claim we hate them.
The laws in place to protect women, were put in place by men, before feminism. It has been my understanding that Rape was illegal before 1960. I guess in feminist history re-writes, it wasn’t and we as men all love rape.
Wake up men… and women.
Reminds me of HLN’s Jane Valez Mitchell and All That War Against Women Bullshit she constantly Pushes. B@tch Please.
Thanks for writing this. It’s a perfect example that rape culture does existence, and exactly what I needed to point out the idiocy of those who refute rape culture for this essay I’m writing.
Well written. I’m sick of seeing people who blame a certain group. All people should be treated as individuals, not tarnished by the warped view of ones experience.
This is wrong. Rape culture does exist, even if rape happens to men and women. And it does. But rape happens to women to a far greater degree than men. And nobody said it’s only rape culture if it happens to women. Rape culture isn’t men celebrating violence or rape against women. It’s creating, or not acting against an environment that makes a rape more likely to happen. From the constant violent imagery of women in gaming and comics, see: http://fozmeadows.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/rape-culture-in-gaming/ to the common choice of insults to be aimed at one’s sexuality (not gender).
And whether or not you think the idea of rape culture is lunacy, it’s not a violation of men’s rights. Not even in the technical sense.
Besides the fact that a reaction to rape isn’t always violence, you can’t conclude that rape against men is less dramatic because of the results of two different articles, neither of which, I’d heard of. That’s not an admission of females being less equal anyways. That’s ridiculous. Women should be/are equal to men, but they’re never going to be physically. Either way, rape against men and women is equally abhorrent. Rape culture is not specific to one gender/sexuality.
You are also creating a strawman’s argument. Accusing a culture of promoting “rape culture” (not rape) is not the same as accusing all men to be rapists (or potential). Women can also rape too you know. And nobody said that people arguing against rape culture are immediately misogynists or rape supporters. That’s like saying every advocate for women’s rights if a feminazi.
And your last statement is so absurd. Feminism doesn’t want supremacy. Heaven forbid we want a world with less violence in it, one with less rape (for both genders). Feminism by definition (check dictionary) is equality for men and women, however misleading the name is. And the idea that women hate their own gender is absolute BS.
Though I can imagine that some women may hate being women. What with getting paid less than men, being less respected than men, being at constant risk and fear of rape, being told by the media to hate their own bodies and that they should be supermodels…
But I’ll tell you that women do not hate their own gender. And the idea that women are attacking men and accusing them of rape culture because they hate themselves and want to hate on men is a classic excuse to discredit so-called “feminazis”. Because if there’s one thing worse to be than a woman, heaven forbid, it’s a feminist.
Denying reality doesn’t make it true. Typical feminist trope.
Alas, poor Donlak (who is not really a person, but allegedly only a misogynistic character in some anonymous blogger’s alleged novels), you’re not very good at listening to or understanding viewpoints other than your own, are you?
I understand and listen to anything reasonable and true. I don’t listen to nonsense, like your comment.
Loki, feminism is painted up all pretty for the media but like atheism, religion, political affiliation and all manner of fodder ripe for internet chatter, it looks much different from the trenches. The trenches where every man that defends a potentially innocent man who’s being painted as a malicious woman hating monster is then themselves labeled as rape enabling woman hating monsters, subhuman and amoral. It is a battle to even be regarded as a human being of significant intellect with a valid point if you’re not nodding in agreement with them for much applause and internet back-pattery.
Further to the point, I’ll go ahead and paraphrase from the article you linked.
“The use of misogyny to defend yourself from accusations of misogyny is a facet of rape culture.”
We don’t have a word, trope, meme, phrase or go-to description for the use of misandry to defend yourself from accusations of misandry, yet it happens. Hell, my browser doesn’t even recognize misandry as a freaking word. The blog you linked discusses women in the gamer community being threatened with sexual slurs, acts of violence based on gender and the like. You have no idea how many physical threats I’ve read to men’s private parts or well wishings of hyper violence. There’s no recognition for it though. When it’s a man in a woman’s medium and he’s being attacked from every side, there’s no recognition for it. These verbal assaults go unnoticed and unpunished because women are the purveyors of the social world. Women are the medium through which information, trending, and apparently society’s morality travel and when they don’t want anyone to know they’re being bigots, no one knows except the people they’re victimizing in an erie parallel of their own victimhood. The issues of attacks on females (verbal, physical, emotional, psychological, etc) are public because society and the social world want them to be public. Not that they are necessarily more prevalent. I would not at once assume that it is more prevalent that a woman gets beaten by a man than it is for a man to find himself in a physical altercation with another man (especially minding prison and warfare statistics).
Camille Paglia: Feminism is stuck in the Rousseauist mode that believes that we are naturally good and anything that is bad is coming from society, that society has made us evil. I take the Freudian view which says we’re born with a propensity towards aggression and that society teaches us rules of restraint. [...] rape is the result not of society creating the rapist, but of an incomplete socialization. Civilized men do not rape. Ethical men do not murder. [...] Sex is dangerous. It is an elemental force we can never fully control.
No. You’re using that phrase wrong. “Rape Culture” is not, as you said numerous times, something that victimizes solely women. It is true that the majority of sexual assault victims are women (90+%) and that 1 in 3 will be raped in their lifetime. It’s also true that 1 in 4 men will commit sexual assault in their lifetime, but that’s completely beside the point. Rape culture is prevalent in society when the victim is blamed for the rape, and there is no rule saying that rape culture only applies to women. Because of the stigma attached to rape, many people (especially men) don’t report the violence against them (that’s rape culture). People joke about rape, and these jokes make sexual violence seem like no big deal (that’s rape culture). The victims are blamed for being raped– girls are sluts, men are pussies and should have been able to fight off their attackers. That’s rape culture.
Honestly I envy you. If your life is such that you’ve never had to take notice of rape culture, you’re lucky! It’s the same idea as white privilege. If you never have to think about racism, you know you’re white. Does that make sense?
Can you send me the term paper you read that you based all this on, I find it oh so fascinating and not cliche at all. Grow up please, and realize things are a little more complex than what you perceive as rape culture and your ridiculous statistical foundations for your rationalizations.
People frequently forget that ‘rape culture’ isn’t defined by men heartlessly or relentlessly preying on women. It’s defined by ignoring or possibly even excusing cases of rape or attempted rape.
Although women do make up the majority of victims, they are not the only ones. We must aknowledge the male victims as well. And just like how men make up the majority of assailants, there are female rapists as well.
Rape culture isn’t about demeaning a man’s sexuality, it’s about the lack of protection for the victims, no matter who they may be.
Just found this while looking for articles that don’t promote/agree with the notion of a rape culture. Glad I stumbled upon this jewel; it says everthing I wish I could articulate. I’m taking a public speaking class to help with my stage fright/speech impediment, and so I’m going to take a stab at topics relating to misandry even though there are female supramacists–I mean, feminists in my class. Anyway, thank you for writing this article.