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Since the sudden departure from the manosphere of Assanova, I realize there has been a deep void of good looking men game blogs, and although this may sound like I’m tooting my own glorious horn, but I do know I’m on the upper echelon of good looks throughout my adult life, and well have a certain knowledge when it comes to this area. A while back Assanova and I got into a little debate on the necessity of game for good looking guys – he said game doesn’t matter, it’s your looks that matter in scoring chicks, where my stance was and is, that looks is not enough, because on the surface it seems peaches and cream, but it can have it’s downsides too.
Being good looking can actually limit your pool of talent that you are trying to bang which can alter your bang stats, if you don’t understand good looks game properly. For example, depending on your level of good looks, you may not easily slay the 6′s and 7′s that a less attractive man would have little problem with using game. If you know you are good looking, and you flaunt it and go for a kill with a girl who has elevated your status to be 2-3 pts higher than hers, will assume you are raking in tons of pussy and higher quality pussy and may opt out of the race for you because she knows she can’t compete with these girls. There are also the types that think, strike that, know that you won’t be faithful to them and that they have little chance of you actually falling in love with them, which is what they want more than anything in the world (alpha love is the same as good looking guy love, as good looking guys are mostly alpha’s and thought of as alpha’s by girls). Which brings me to my over all point. Good looking guys are assumed to be alpha.
Of course not all good looking guys are alpha, and not all good looking guys actually know how good looking they are to girls, and when this happen, there is a major mis-calibration on how the man presents himself to girls. With assumed alphaness, actual application of game should be minimal. Any game you run can be counter productive, and could produce incongruencies in your behaviour. Girls assume that guys know how much pull they have with girls, and the only way guys can know that, is by how easy it is to slay pussy. So there can be a negative feedback loop that causes a lot of damaging results for a good looking guy running unnecessary game on a girl he shouldn’t be doing. Sometimes it’s easier for everyone else to know what your sexual market place value is than it is for yourself. I see other good looking guys being too beta, and it has the same effect. It just seems wrong to everyone but the actual person. You may also have to plow more to comfort a girl in order for her to believe that you actually like her and aren’t just out to fuck her (which you are) – she may never believe this no matter how much you comfort, and as a result running this game is a disservice and looks beta for a good looking man. Some girls will just take themselves out of the running, and it happens more for good looking guys trying to sleigh 6′s and 7′s.
Being too beta and needy is also amplified by a factor of 10 – why would such a good looking high value man be acting like that. And when you run game, it can come off as acting a little needy, or try hard. Even if your are too aloof can you run the risk of being incongruent. Good looking guys have the disadvantage at basically having to appear positive at all times mixed with the alpha aloof nothing gets to me mindset – but not because he’s an a-hole, but because it is assumed that us good looking men get the exact same benefits that a good looking girl gets. Everything handed to them on a silver platter. And it is true. I know for a fact that I have been able to coast my way through life with little effort and get by pretty okay, have things go my way for the most part, and it’s usually all to do with my looks plus a little charm.
Good looking guys who are cocky, can produce wetness between the legs of pretty young things, but it’s also unnecessary to be cocky to those girls because they’re usually wet just by seeing you. With good looking guys the cockiness needs to be almost bimbo-esque, like you aren’t even aware that you are being cocky or sure of yourself. Good looking game requires you to just assume everything is going to go well for you and the other people around you will make things good, and go out of their way to help you. And it is true. When I have had this mentality and know that I’m pretty damned good looking (enough to turn heads and get noticed, make some girls nervous, make some girls run game on me, make some girls giddy, and lay girls with out doing anything but smiling and and flirting with her for a few minutes) is when people around me have given me promotions, free stuff, and lots of attention. Basically, good looking game is for a good looking man to walk around like good looking girls do, shit will just happen for them. The positivity of life is miraculous. The good looking person can sway his way in and out of situations normal people couldn’t – and mixed with just a little charm, they can pretty much do what ever they want. The charm of course, is that positive attitude to know that every and all situations work out in your favour, whether they actually do or not.
For good looking guys to succeed properly in laying what he wants, he must be oblivious to any negative outcomes. He shouldn’t even need to game, as if he is with a girl, at some point she will make it clear that she wants you. There is no wishing and hoping or ringing of hands over dates or social situations because a good looking guy just plain gets what he wants – when something doesn’t go his way (say maybe a jealous ugly or fat person tries to sabotage him) he doesn’t even flinch, he just finds it a new peculiar thing that happened to him, and another interesting story he can tell his good looking friends about.
This of course may seem all self evident – and if it does, you probably aren’t good looking, or at the very least you aren’t the good looking guy that hasn’t fully been aware of how good he is. Some guys are very humble to the point of denial or not wanting to be an arrogant bastard and acts like normal people act because he thinks he’s like them. He may have normal looking friends, and they secretly despise him because he gets away with stuff that the good looking friend simply does not notice. When a good looking guy strikes out, his lessor looking friends will simultaneously be confused and vilified. And the rejection is almost always that the good looking man tried to hard, and lowered himself below his SMV.
At this point in the article, you may start to pick out all the things that game teaches, aloofness, confidence, etc… but game is essentially to mock the behaviours of alpha’s, and every good looking guys is considered by girls to be alpha unless he seriously devalues himself, which happens all the time. I believe that game is necessary because I think most guys that aren’t alpha devalue themselves on character or behaviour and maybe looks, but the good looking guys are only really devalue their looks, mainly because they don’t want to appear too arrogant or believe their own hype. It is actually sometimes difficult to fully be aware of what your looks are capable of it, and being aware of it actually has downside, because you start measuring it and the seeds of doubt creep in. Ever see a depressed or insecure attractive person? It is far more shocking then a person that you could see why they might be insecure.
For good looking guys reading game blogs, it’s almost irrelevant as I think Assanova’s original point really was, and that’s because as a good looking guy you are valued by more girls than the game needing people. There is a certain expectation of a more calm and cool demeanour from a good looking person than a dangerous alpha criminal type. Good looking men are attractive just because they are hot – and if you start running asshole game it will backfire. Why? Because good looking guys don’t need an edge. They are wanted because they are hot.
Along with the other post you wrote about my question to you, this fits me perfectly. I was one of those guys who didn’t really realize that I was that good looking. I’ve had girls flat out give me the fuck me eyes. And for the longest time I was absolutely oblivious to it, until I took a female friend out with me and she started pointing out all the girls who did it.
I’m struggling massively with this. I feel I have an easier time with 8s and 9s, vs 6s and 7s, and tall girls vs short girls because I’m consistently losing to the competition. The fewer guys in the race – I’m tall and I’m not afraid of hot girls – the better I do.
I’ll refer to Aristotle again. He said humans are disposed to either deficiency or excess, with moderation the ideal somewhere in between. On one hand, he admits there is no moderation in capital crimes and capital sin.
On the other he also argues the mean is closer to deficiency in some cases and closer to excess in others. Temperance is closer to teetotal than drunkard. Courage is closer to foolhardy than coward.
In this framework, the male seduction spectrum is denominated in indifference; from deficiency to excess:
1. needy creepy stalker (no indifference)
2. indirect game (slightly afraid of rejection)
3. correct alpha game
4. direct game (slightly indifferent to results)
5. jerk game (completely indifferent to results)
I put correct alpha game between direct and indirect since 24/7 direct game is too needy for an alpha, as you’ve noted above. An alpha just living his life will naturally fall into indirect game and have fun with it. Being playful with women is what indirect game tries to accomplish. That said, the alpha will go in for the kill if he likes her, and this is closer to direct game.
In total, it seems alpha game is closer to jerk side of the spectrum than it is to the needy stalker side of the spectrum. I’m guessing I need to overshoot, maybe to direct game for a few weeks, take my lumps, get a few notches, and then settle back into alpha game.
I’ve often wondered if there is a similar perceived alphaness in regards to height. If a guy’s tall and tends to look down to other guys, then I wonder how that translates to girls. Especially if he’s also good looking. On the other hand, if he’s extremely tall, the girls might not find that attractive because it would just be too awkward of a size difference, which could be a limiting factor perhaps. It seems that generally girls prefer guys that are taller than them, but not too tall. Still, I’m not sure how much this alone translates to their feelings of attraction, but I’m sure it must be a factor. It’s funny how height can weigh in. I met a very attractive girl the other night, but she was almost equal height as me in flats, and I’m 6’2″, and I just wasn’t feeling it. I always like petite girls that I am taller than, that look up to me.
I think there is a perceived alphaness to height… But it is relative to how petite or tall a girl is in relation to you. But generally taller guys have it easier, taller good looking guys even easier, add some muscle def to that and it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. Game can over come missing some of these traits, but in direct competition it’s no match.
I feel the same as you, I like em petite. I’ve banged girls my height, but I wouldn’t date one… They must look up at me.
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Good looking guys have real hard time. I wonder why they don’t commit suicides from leaving sexless life. Meanhwile ugly guys are drowning in pussy. Just lol
Assanova is back:
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But you said in an earlier post that good looking guys don’t need game and in fact, too much game can actually hurt a good looking guy more than an average guy. So which is it?
Some good looking guys are naturally aloof – like the good looking babe, things are just handed to him. he doesn’t need game. The guy who doesn’t think his looks will seal the deal if he doesn’t fuck it up need game to get himself to the former state.