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VK brought up an interesting jab at a portion of the manosphere, and who knows what specific blogs he’s talking about, but his basic premise is this: If you don’t show that you are actively approaching new girls and know the hot spots where the girls go, then your take on game is invalid. Now, I believe there was a specific target and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t me, but I don’t have one lay report on my site, and in the words of his post, I’m a nerd that never goes out (also never has gone out) and you shouldn’t listen to me or others that don’t have lay reports and/or video’s of their pick up experiences. There of course is 2 things wrong with this theory ( ahem).
1). I’m a writer, I write fiction and non-fiction, it’s very easy for me to make up lay reports where you would have no idea if it was true or not. I’m also a director and could easily produce fake videos of me attempting pick up. Whatever you put on the internet is assumed fake and or selective. If I see a UFO video, I don’t assume it’s real, I assume it’s fake. Now I’m not saying any of these reports and videos are fakes, but because they could be, makes them just as meaningful to the audience or not meaningful as the game theory blogs.
2.) Although game shares basic tenets that can be used by all men, how you use game is not necessarily how I can use game. For example, a friend of mine, who’s physique and character are very different than mine, I learned a lot from him, we’ve used very similar techniques to lay pussy, but I also know, as does he, that girls are attracted to us for different reasons and we are perceived differently. Therefore me copying him or vice versa is inauthentic and would and does lead to a pussy less evening and often did. So your lay reports and experience are great at honing what you are doing right, but may not work the same for a variety of men.
There was also an assumption that if you don’t know where all the girls hang out lately than you’re a nerd and don’t actually actively game is fairly humorous because there is no way to prove it – and telling your friends you should approach feels like high school games. If you told me to approach a girl, I’ve already failed at picking her up or approaching her, and you’re being a dick. I swoop when I want and where I want and don’t make a sporting event out of it, well not anymore. In my early 20′s, I sure did. Point is, just because someone doesn’t do something or tell you about it doesn’t mean they don’t do it. This is the one major contention I had with the article. Very presumptuous. Everyone can have their opinion of course, I myself criticize the manosphere at times because I think it’s healthy – just as I think VK’s post is healthy and good. We need a little challenge every now and then or we get bored.
And yes, you can get bored of banging chicks. Happens to me all the time. Just never permanently. And writing about anything, even chicks can get repetitive and thus boring. I’m not sure where that comment came from, but as much as I love women, my entire world does not revolve around them. Just my cocks world does.
The guys I read and enjoy are the ones who show me that they understand women, those are the guys that have legit experience.
Yeah, Deaf wasn’t even talking about you. But you do have very good points and I appreciate your posts and points.
Just to try and clarify my point a little. I was going in on guys who mostly write about social/ evo dynamics (which is cool and all) But then try to tie those thoughts back to game to prove a point or call whatever their talking about “Game” is mostly bullshit. I’m not saying have a lay report and detail every girl you’ve fucked. But at the very minimum talk about situations you’ve been in yourself personally where you used game. You got a number, you were on a date, you talked to a girl on the street. Something that ties back to the “game” thoughts you’re using all the graphs, census data, latest ground breaking research shows.
Sure people can make up shit if they want, and if you really want to go through the effort of making a fake video and spending your time writing fake blog posts about game go for it, but you’ll slip up and get caught, real recognize real and I’ve seen it happen way too many times.
You don’t have to “know” exactly where the latest coolest spots are, I was trying to say you should at least be out in the field to spot the general trends to notice how girls are acting lately, what they’re talking about what or where they think is hot. Basically if you claim you know game and at least be up on the current trend. A lot of guys have been out of game for a while or in long term relationships and basically writing about it based on memory and outdated data. You can tell. Most of this time the information is useless.
Finally of course you don’t have to bang some girl or approach because your friend said so. But you know some guys who swear they know game then you get to a spot and supposedly “Every” girl in the place isn’t good enough for him. Ok fine let’s assume for a second that’s true (and it’s not) but YOU find a girl attractive and you just need him to wingman for you and he’ll still says no. That’s fine if this happens once maybe he’s just not feeling it that night. But then this happens every night and at different venues. Yet the guy will go back and write long essays about game theory and male / female relationship and interactions.
My main warning is to be weary of guys claiming they know anything about game and haven’t proven anything.
oh I knew you weren’t referring to me, no worries there. And I get exactly you’re point and what you mean, and I don’t disagree – I thought it was an interesting post and true about being careful who you listen too. And I wasn’t trying to say anything negative towards you, so I hope you didn’t take it that way.
I wasn’t really trying to argue with your statements, rather clarifying my own stance in relation to other blogs and styles. Your post just inspired me to write about it and I used your examples to do so.
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