Coy’s comment:
Donlak, I am new to game and have trouble getting from attraction to comfort.any tips.I mean I get a lot of IOI’s and even DDBL’s.but I am seldom able to move them to comfort.Any tips on calibration and SOI’s?
I got this comment the other day, and my first instinct is to believe this to be a joke, someone trying to ‘show’ all us ladies men how PUA is ‘stupid’ or ‘foolish’ by asking a bunch of gibberish and expecting a proper response. Still can’t be sure if this is an honest question, or a troll in sheep’s clothing.
If this is an honest question, Coy, how in the hell do you expect me to answer this question? Do you honestly think there’s a quick and easy placard answer I can just give you, oh, just do this and you will go from attraction to comfort and so on. Provide more information when asking such questions and I can tell you where you’re going wrong. Also seduction isn’t a formula, sure the mystery method can work, but once you gain experience with girls, you understand that your seduction needs to be fluid, and not conscious of going from one stage to another – the only stage that should be on your mind, somewhat consciously, is the final one, the escalation, as in, is she ready to go? I need to ramp this up, etc. Attraction and comfort are all fairly easy, it’s just having good rapport. Learn that and stop going through different stages, once you’ve got good report and you’ve flirted sexually, you need to start escalating and going for the bang.
For the love of god stop using all those pick up artist sayings and abbreviations – stop paying attention to everything the girl is doing, and stop over analyzing. Let’s go back before the game came out, our old method to know if our seduction was going well in the early stages was this: Is she digging me? She seems pretty into me, Imma go for the close. Or someone around the two of you would say, she’s totally digging you, go for it. Kind of more vague for someone that’s never had that before, but more concrete to a man that has a charming aloof personality, you can work to build this attraction, but with some girls it just ain’t worth it. I give them the 10 minute rule. If they aren’t warming up to me in 10 minutes, even a little, I end the interaction, not worth my time anymore, and the interaction is too annoying for me to continue on.
PUA speak sounds too much like nerd speak these days, and chicks have all read it – hell I’ve hear quite a lot of them spew these terms off like they’re a dude learning game, like yourself Coy. It’s time game went back to it’s roots, and learn seduction from whence it came, the secret underground. Girls don’t like to know they’re being seduced, they like the fantasy of submitting to your charming bastard ways.
Drop the game speak, and learn to seduce instead of comparing notes with your obnoxious pick up friends. You’re 5 years too late for this.
Thanks donlak.well I assure you I am not a troll.I kinda picked up on the fluidity thing.being an engineer the structure of the mystery method made quite some sense to get started.so I guess its the certanity of the structure of mystery method that gave me the confidence to get started.and I don’t have pua friends to analyze with.all of them are hopelessly beta.the problem is that I come off as too much of an asshole or overgame.I think in my head too much.the lingo make it worse as it Helps in quick thinking but also aids in overanalyzing .
what exactly do you mean by the secret underground?
Hey Donlak, great post. There’s no substitute for getting out there and making the effort. Learning from one’s mistakes.
BTW Yesterdays Vancouver Sun had another article with aging careerist broads complaining about Vancity men… Spin Hamster Spin!!!
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Vancouver+dating+scene+hard+score/6895779/story.html
oh, thanks for the heads up.
Han Solo gets Princess Leia. This is the only method of seduction a man needs to study.
I seriously think reading PUA stuff has fucked me up and it seems like other guys on here got messed up on some level too all you need to do is search some of the posts here with guys saying how they wanted to kill themselves over lack of success with women. I have got rid of/deleted the Seduction material I had (which is very few) and I am going to stop reading anything on PUA/Seduction. The other trap of studying this stuff is you still won’t be satisfied and you’ll soon be looking for the supposedly next, newly discovered “real attraction system” and it the cycle repeats itself.
Instead of moving to these logical, yet unimportant questions your focus your energies on creating a party atmosphere. Your goal during the early pick up should be to generate interest and/or intrigue. Stack your set with a game (e.g strawberry fields, five questions), a challenge/banter (negs, friendly teasing, joking), or a cold read (e.g. Ring or palm reading). Continue stacking hard until you start getting the indicators of interest that suggest she’s ready for rapport building and seduction.