Whether it be in regards to work, career, family, women, anything men do in the world we need that little carrot dangling over our heads that we can make our world better. It’s a unique trait in men, something women can’t understand, and haven’t displayed outside of appearance and social acceptance, and perhaps family building and maintenance – and it’s something that has driven humanity to reach the heights of civilizations, and progression. Now sure, perhaps men’s ambition could have been tempered a bit by a good femaie influence and our mistakes might have been avoided (we tend to go over board a little (over grazing our planet, over indulging on conquests, etc) but with out our ambition, and our desire to make our world better for ourselves, we would be left in small hunter gathering tribes.
Now let’s take a look at the world around us currently, as we a shift in our paradigm, where jobs are scarce and have little hope of enough quality jobs being created, lack of quality jobs that can become careers, the increasing competition with population growth and the addition to women in the workplace, robotic and automation, and off shore workers doing our jobs for pittences – and we see a lack of motivation in our enviroment, there’s little to be excited and motivated to get out there and conquer the market when it’s already laying there in a death rattle. Marriage and women have little to be desired, their weight is going up up up, their attitudes are getting worse, and their expectations are stuck in a friends and sex in the city worlds of a previous generations fantasy, not to mention sexist towards men divorce laws and financial and custody risks taken up if one were desired to get married. Not much of a carrot there, on a general view.
There are so many area’s that have ceased to give men motivation to “man up” as some have called for, and for men, we don’t man up for nothing. We man up to a challenge, one that has the promise of a reward if successful. If there is no chance of success, or extremely limted chance, we’re most likely not going to be motivated. See, you femaie counterparts, we as men don’t have the luxury of opting out of this situation, we can’t simply plop out a few kids and get taken care of – no we have to shoulder this burden with out opt outs – with the exception of opting out of having sex, opting out of career building in order to play more video games, or watch movies and just sit around and watch sports until we die. Or, for some men, taking pleasure in sexual escapades with the waning attractive sexual market place.
As much as I would like to say, men can make their own motivation in order to change their circumstances, and it’s true we can, there is simply to much of a lack of motivation to do so. Society holds no carrot for us anymore. Welcome to dystopia.
“Welcome to dystopia.”
Dystopia is the new term for the Matrix.
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Let me sum up. You need society to create motivation for you. You kinda expect it to.
I don’t know where to start. The above is not even wrong.
A much respected male author, Nikos Kazantzakis, in his biography Report to Greco asks what orders his general (God) would give him. Do what is possible, was the answer. The man asked for a harder, more Cretan order. “Do what is impossible”, was the answer.
So, if society won’t hold a carrot, do you not see carrots outside that framework? Is the weather as grey and bad at your place as it is here, that your mind is also foggy?
“If there is no chance of success, or extremely limted chance, we’re most likely not going to be motivated.”
Those 300 Spartans might have had one hell of a downer. Well, of course success for them meant a horrid death in battle, so you may say society provided them with extra helpings of that stuff.
Alright, don’t man up, but at least show some imagination. The above is pure whining. There are more things in the world, don’t pretend you don’t see them. The world owes you nothing, it was there before you.
And speaking of Kazantzakis, you may want to look at another manly thing, the Askitiki text.
Donlak,are they’re phases in game?since I started reading your articles along with others on gameing,it feels lIke I’m starting to realize how they (women) really are and it’s fucked up.I like to read thru profiles on dating sites like pof,okcupid and that’s about it ,but they are so contradictory I can’t take them serious anymore .i learned they can all be mind fucked no matter ,how smart ,how good looking they are,or how self assured they are to rip your fucking balls off.Am I just in a phase or is this the real McCoy?
You’re talking about the micro, the article is referring to the macro.
As far as the Spartans, the 300 if you will, were fighting for their society that they cherished (carrot dangling) they had both personal survival and societal survival as their motivation.
it’s always mans imperitive to find his own motivation, but as civilizations crumble, you always see the same thing, the men lose interest and leave in hordes.
You are so screwed up it’s unbelievable. How can you be so ignorant? You are such a misogynist. I’ve read some articles of yours and I’m still amazed how someone can be so shallow and stupid. You act as if you know the rules of mating selection, the nature of women and men. But you really don’t know anything.
You may wonder why I’ve read your articles if I don’t approve of them?
Because I’m amazed how someone can be like you. And I don’t mean amazed in any positive sense. I can’t help to wonder how you could grow up to think like this. You seem to only care for womens physical contributes.
It’s absurt that you think men only have motivation in life and that this is a unique trait of only men. How can you even think women only have motivation in appearance and social acceptence? That’s so absurt. Why would women study or work if they didn’t have motivation outside of vanity and social acceptence.
Motivation doesn’t have anything with gender.
I’m not a feminist but rather neutral when it comes to genders stand in society. I think it’s absurt to put genders in a “file” of social behaviour and the better sex. Of cource women and men think differently but you can’t just state that women are exactly like that and the same goes for men. It’s more complex than that.
I could go on forever about my opinion here. But I won’t.
‘We man up to a challenge, one that has the promise of a reward if successful. If there is no chance of success, or extremely limted chance, we’re most likely not going to be motivated.’
That’s another of the problems with modern (feminised) society, it doesn’t reward risk takers, or even allow risk takers to benefit from their labours. In 1848 California, miners moved to the land with the possiblity of profitting 100% from their labours. All the gold that they earned, they kept and could do with what they pleased. Nowadays the tax burden per capita is around 40%-50% in most Western countries, that means that after you’ve taken a risk in a business venture, and against high odds actally succeeded, then the government will take a large chunk of your labour (or remove your property by force, or your freedom if needs be). Now who would bother taking risks if half of your work is going to be frittered away on wasteful govt spending?
@Kimmy
Sweety….. you left out “penis size”, “not able to get laid”, and “can’t deal with strong independant women”…….work on your shameing honey…..you special snowflake unicorn rainbow girl….no woman has ever had the insiteful viewpoint….and offered the kind of quality ideas you chose to grace this board with….you go girrrrrrl
@Kimmy again
Hon, do a google search for “The Misadry Bubble”. Read it……learn……I dare you. If you can get through that try a site called “Rational Male”…..know what you’re talkin’ ’bout don’t tell us about how you feel…..G’nite honey sweet dreams
@Anonymous
It’s kim for you. I took your bet and read the sites. I didn’t read all the articles, but I read enough. Well my comment was only based on this article and not the whole subject of feminism, misogynist etc.I never claimed that I did know everything about this subject. Some of the articles in those sites did have a shade of truth when it comes to some women, but as said before everyone is different. And there are always exceptions.
I am female and I can tell you for sure that I don’t only have motivation to look good or social statues, family bulding, etc. So when it comes to this I do know what I’m talking about.
“Whether it be in regards to work, career, family, women, anything men do in the world we need that little carrot dangling over our heads that we can make our world better. It’s a unique trait in men, something women can’t understand, and haven’t displayed outside of appearance and social acceptance, and perhaps family building and maintenance – and it’s something that has driven humanity to reach the heights of civilizations, and progression” – donlak
Some women do only care for appearance,social acceptemce,family building and maintenance. But to say that this goes for everyone is absurt. He says that ” anything men do in the world we need that little carrot dangling over our heads that we can make our world better” But you haven’t met enough women to conclude this. Maybe those who you know or met were and are like this but that doesn’t mean you can conclude that women and men ar like that. You can’t speak for the whole male and female populaion. I know many exceptions.
And this isn’t how I feel. This is my opinion and I don’t expect people to agree or disagree.
Anonymous do you really agree with what he says?
@kimmy
NAWALT????…….read more ….learn more…..opine less……there’s a good girl….